Well, I'll give you an anecdote:
Aunt Pesya in Odessa is called by Tsilya's niece from America:
- Aunt Pesya, what's going on there?
– Yes, Russia is at war with NATO a little. And for some reason we...
So what, is there a loss?
- There is, how not to be. Tsilya, this is war. Look, Russia lost a hundred aircraft, a thousand tanks, several ships. And lost a lot of people...
- What about NATO?
- Tsilya, you won't believe it - NATO hasn't arrived yet...